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September 1, 2014

We Don't Have a Spending Problem

Kevin Drum: “So what’s our real problem? That’s simple: America is getting older and healthcare costs are rising. That means we’ll need to spend more money in the future on Social Security and Medicare. There’s simply no way around that unless we’re willing to immiserate our elderly, and that’s not going to happen. Not only is it politically inconceivable, but the truth is that even Republicans don’t want to do it, no matter how tough a game they talk. Like it or not, this means that over the next 20 or 30 years, spending on the elderly is going to go up by three or four percent of GDP.”

“Spending in general has been well controlled for the past 30 years, averaging about 21 percent of GDP. With good management, that might go down a point or two, but certainly no more. Probably the lowest we can realistically hope for is about 19-20 percent of GDP. Add in the increased spending on the elderly, and federal outlays are going to be in the neighborhood of 23-24 percent of GDP by around 2030.

“Those are simply the facts. Even under a scenario where we control spending pretty tightly, spending is going to go up to about 24 percent of GDP. There’s really no politically feasible way of keeping it any lower. Anyone who cares about the deficit, then, needs to understand that in the long run, taxes need to go up to about 24 percent of GDP too.”

“We don’t have a spending problem. We have an aging problem and a taxing problem.”

  • http://twitter.com/LaCatholicState la catholic state

    And guess why u have an ageing problem?! yeah that’s right….legalised abortion and contraception mean not enough children…despite mass immigration.
    Secular la la land goes up in smoke. It just isn’t feasible.

    • Chris Rautmann

      Legalized abortion and contraception ALSO mean a lower crime rate, lower numbers of people on welfare, lower rates of substance abuse, a higher rate of social mobility, higher rates of productivity among workers, a higher chance for people to get a college education, and higher overall productivity over their lives.

      • user98765

        Naw, I thought all those unwanted babies would be falling into the laps of rich whites…

        • http://twitter.com/LaCatholicState la catholic state

          Um….it is not a sin to be rich…or white. Unbelievable isn’t it.

          • Wynstone

            Greed is a sin. Can you justify to your God hoarding more than what was needed to be comfortable while others around you were in need of food and medicine? The only real directive Christians have is to ease the suffering of their fellow human beings under the teachings of Jesus.

          • http://twitter.com/LaCatholicState la catholic state

            Yes, Greed is a sin. And Catholics are not supposed to hoard. Neither are secularists. They just haven’t been taught this or reject it.
            Christ gave many directives. I can only conclude you have never read the Gospels. Please do.

          • Wynstone

            Yes, many directives with a central theme.

          • http://twitter.com/LaCatholicState la catholic state

            If u love Me u will keep my commandments…..said Jesus Christ.

          • Mimihaha

            I’ll bet Jesus knew how to spell ‘you.’

      • http://twitter.com/LaCatholicState la catholic state

        No it doesn’t. Abortion means a higher murder rate….as each abortion is an evil murder. Don’t worry…..all will be repaid….every last innocent life will be accounted for….and punishment will be delivered to the evil ones who advocated murder of the innocent.

        • Forrest

          Now you’re starting to sound like a terrorist.

          If you think Jesus loves pipe bombs, think again.

          • http://twitter.com/LaCatholicState la catholic state

            Neither does He love abortion. In fact…..whatsoever u do to the least of my brothers….that u do unto Me. That’s what He said.

    • FreeStateLarry

      Or we could be overpopulated. Or we could deny human rights by illegalizing abortion and turning off access to birth control.

      Or maybe you think the Catholic Church should tell people what to do with their bodies? Sure, they have a great record on wise judgement and individual rights.

      • user98765

        Great response to a Kool Aid drinking idiot.

      • http://twitter.com/LaCatholicState la catholic state

        Abortion is denying the right to life to unborn children. For that ….you must pay! Pay back time coming.

        • FreeStateLarry

          It’s not a child, it’s a zygote/embryo/fetus. It’s giving rights to a non-sentient lump of cells.

          • http://twitter.com/LaCatholicState la catholic state

            It’s a child. Stop the dehumanising. Isn’t that what was done to slaves.

    • user98765

      Only in America would this dumb, poorly punctuated drivel pass for an opinion. “La la land” as you call it is doing just fine. I guess in your idiocy you forgot that immigrants also have access to birth control. Or do you assume that it’s a breeding competition in your weak-minded world?

      Go ahead, have more babies. You won’t be adding anything to the world, I can tell.

      • http://twitter.com/LaCatholicState la catholic state

        Nature favours the religious and the fruitful. Good.

        • FreeStateLarry

          “Nature favors the religious and the fruitful.”

          Would you happen to mean evolution? I think you’re confusing “religious” with “those with larger brains”.

          • http://twitter.com/LaCatholicState la catholic state

            Not evolution but natural selection. NS favours the fruitful.

    • Tom_P

      Then come and convert us by force. Burn the Constitution on your way in, because you’re already dousing it in oil. I am sure some conversions by the sword will help with that population problem, too.

      • http://twitter.com/LaCatholicState la catholic state

        No need. Secularists will just fail to replicate themselves….and the world will forget they ever existed.

        • Tom_P

          Ah, but what will you do about the Muslims?

          I would also ask you to square your celebration of the theoretical demographic decline of those who are not in your tribe, and your tribe’s victory in ‘self-replication,’ with the church’s teachings on human dignity. (Summary here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catholic_social_teaching#Human_dignity)

          You see, old fellow, I do believe in God (if not the Catholic faith) and I will say that when you caper with glee at the prospect of your tribe winning out over another tribe, you may just be missing the teachings of that fellow who I am told spent some time on a cross for us folks. But then, perhaps in the end, God is – to you and your ilk – merely a totem you flog, someone whom you venerate as your tribal icon. I am sure He will have a sufficient reward for such veneration.

          • http://twitter.com/LaCatholicState la catholic state

            But isn’t it always joyful to see the downfall of those who would do evil to others?! I think so.

          • Tom_P

            Mighty Christian of you, bro. Mighty Christian.

          • FreeStateLarry

            So how about all those bishops and priests that did irreparable damage to ACTUAL children, and didn’t face a lick of discipline from the church? Where is THEIR downfall?

          • http://twitter.com/LaCatholicState la catholic state

            Better a millstone were tied around their necks and they were cast into the depts of the ocean. (Jesus Christ). OK!

        • FreeStateLarry

          Secularists (or non-zealots) will replicate themselves as long as people are using their brains.

          • http://twitter.com/LaCatholicState la catholic state

            Not as long as they are aborting and contracepting their offspring out of existence.

    • Forrest

      Ah! It’s a slimy, frothy little Santorum supporter!
      What a rare find in 2013!!!

    • Arguman

      So if we had more younger people, we’d have less older people?
      Of course! Why couldn’t us dirty libs see it before??

  • http://twitter.com/rogera136 Roger Ashby

    I see immigrations form the south that are sucking up the money that we are giving them. So, in that case. Why not take care of the people that are citizens. That belong here. Or, charg their county for the help that we hand out

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