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April 16, 2014

Will the 51st State Be in Northern Colorado?

National Journal reports that “the city commissioners of Colorado’s Weld and Phillips counties voted to approve a ballot measure asking voters if they want to secede from Colorado and create a 51st state.”

“The idea to split from Colorado, which began to take root at a June conference, could include several other counties in the north of the state. Three other counties have already approved the ballot question, and three more will vote on the issue this week.”

Weld County Commissioner Sean Conway “has some ideas for how to get support, particularly from Congress, which would have to sign off on a new state. His big idea? Puerto Rico. If Puerto Rico (or, Washington D.C.) gets admitted as a new state, that’s a likely boost for Democrats.”

Or perhaps it will just end up as one of the Lost States.

  • Denguyfl

    Reality check time. Seceding from Colorado would also mean you secede from the US. This would not be a 51st state. State admission into the United States is determined by Congress. This would be a country unto itself and that worked well last time.

    • rhodent

      That depends on how the ordinance is written. It could be written such that secession is contingent upon the new entity being accepted by the United States as a new state.

  • http://satp.blogspot.com/ JoshSN

    The two counties have a combined population of about 250,000 people.

    I’m sure the House could vote yes (two more GOP Senators) and no one else will bother.

  • VoteQuimby

    The whole story seems to contradict a key part (section 3) of Article 4 as well – ‘no new States shall be formed or erected within the Jurisdiction of any other State’:

    New States may be admitted by the Congress into this Union; but no new States shall be formed or erected within the Jurisdiction of any other State; nor any State be formed by the Junction of two or more States, or parts of States, without the Consent of the Legislatures of the States concerned as well as of the Congress.

    • Lorehead

      Did you even read the rest of the sentence?

    • tomwest

      “… without the Consent of the Legislatures of the States concerned as well as of the Congress.”
      So, it can happen.

    • 31dot

      West Virginia was formed after Unionists gathered in Wheeling and declared the Legislature in Richmond invalid (having committed treason by seceding) and convened a new Virginia Legislature which authorized the creation of West Virginia.

  • JB Chandler

    These counties in Northern Colorado should just join up with Wyoming. Closer ideologically, and no new senators. Puerto Rico though? They should become the 51st state.

  • mattlisa

    This is a silly argument. Md votes 60% democratic but the majority of counties vote republican. the far western counties voted 70% for Romney. That’s just the way it is in most states.Rural voters are conservative and many are stuck in democratic states.

    If people don’t like the democrats running the show they can just move to Wyoming or Utah!

    • Kristan Overstreet

      According to the people pushing for this to happen, they’re getting support from parts of Wyoming, Nebraska and Kansas who think those states aren’t red ENOUGH…

  • Norman Buchwald

    California talked about splitting into three states back in the 90s. It’s not going to happen. The only time I state ever split was Virginia (thus West Virginia) and that was due to the Civil War.

    • 66kicks

      Maine was severed from Massachusetts as part of the Compromise of 1820, where it balanced the admission of slave state Missouri.

    • rhodent

      Not true: Kentucky also split off from Virginia, Tennessee split off from North Carolina, and Maine split off from Massachusetts. (Tennessee became a territory after it split from N.C.; Kentucky and Maine immediately became states.)

    • Wayne Johnson

      Parts of Texas were given to present-day Oklahoma, Kansas, Colorado, Wyoming, and New Mexico. Parts of South Carolina were given to Georgia, Alabama, and Mississippi. The big one was Virginia, which originally reached all the way to Michigan.

    • http://foundersfollies.blogspot.com/ Chredon

      if Republicans are worried about there being too many blue states, why don’t they just exercise their option to split Texas into five states? One (Austin) would be blue, the rest red.

  • Patterman

    This comes of too much “states rights” malarkey

    • Becklev

      I’d hate to see what kind of state this became; it might be like the proposed state of Nataqua (or something like that), that had to give up and join California because no woman would live there.

  • otownes

    Colorado should let them, and take back any asphalt and pipes it’s laid, as well as any other state-provided services. Then I would watch that state’s legislature with a big bowl of popcorn and a beer.

  • Wayne Johnson

    That is just about the last place in the US that would deserve to be a state. They should be collapsing states out there, not creating new ones.

    Idaho, Montana, Wyoming and the Dakotas together have a smaller population than South Carolina. Collapse all 5 of them with this rabid little corner of Colorado and give them the TWO Senators they deserve instead of the TEN they have. Then you’d see things get better in this country.

    • str8 facts

      New England should be consolidated as well.

      • Felix

        Hell yeah i’d take that deal. The 5 New England states have a combined pop. of about 13.2 million. The 7 western states (co, ks, ne, nd, sd, wy, mt) have a combined pop of about 13 million. New England would have two Dem senators, and perhaps so would the new western state of Coloradokota.

  • 31dot

    This is an academic exercise as they would need the permission of Colorado in order to finalize statehood, along with approval from Congress.

  • YesMan6

    Idiots.

  • Jo Hargis

    Typical toddler GOP behavior. Stomp their feet and whine when things don’t go exactly their way. Just like Texas, I’ll say that hey, if you don’t want to follow the majority rules concept in this country, secede by all means, but don’t expect to come in as another state. That’s all this is about, a bunch of GOP whiners who don’t like it that people don’t agree with them. Power, an attempt to change the balance of power.

  • David Bluefeather

    FREEDOM FOR SOUTH TEXAS!!! Tejas!!! The 51st state

  • http://www.google.com/ KAOS

    Should they secede, Colorado should send them a bill for all roads, gas lines, power plants, power lines, educational institutions, farmland, airports, etc. Seems fair to me.

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