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October 23, 2014

Study: Strong Evidence of Discriminatory Intent Behind Voter ID Laws

Christopher Ingraham: “State legislators who support voter ID laws are motivated in no small part by racial bias, according to a new study from the University of Southern California. The study finds strong evidence that ‘discriminatory intent underlies legislative support for voter identification laws.'”

The study: “In the two weeks prior to the 2012 election, [researchers] sent e-mail correspondence to a total of 1,871 state legislators in 14 states.”

“The key to the experiment lies in that voter name field. One group of legislators received e-mail from a voter who identified himself as ‘Jacob Smith.’ The other received email from ‘Santiago Rodriguez.’ Moreover, half of the legislators in each of these two groups received e-mails written in Spanish, while half received English-language e-mails.”

“The researchers found that legislators who had supported voter ID laws were much more likely to respond to ‘Jacob Smith’ than to ‘Santiago Rodriguez.’ This gap reveals a preference for responding to constituents with Anglophone names over constituents with Hispanic ones.”

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  • Suralin

    Show of hands, who is particularly surprised by these findings? :|

    • Thirteen

      I am shocked, shocked to find that gambling is going on in here.

  • Mac Harris

    And yet the study fails to mention that the vast majority of voter fraud occurs within the groups opposed to voter id laws…

    • Thirteen

      What the hell does that mean? What “groups” are these? What fraud fo you think is occurring? Care to get specific with your accusations, or have you not thought them out yet?

    • MVH1

      You’re going to have to show your proof on that because the information i have is exactly the opposite but also shows no major occurrence of voter fraud. You’d be shocked how few prosecutions there have been since evidence i required for that and there is none.

    • Mac Harris

      One word oh self righteous ones….
      ACORN
      Duh

  • mike

    Voters should be required to show ID’s, you have to if you fly or go into a government office. What is the difference?

    • Thirteen

      Disregarding the rhetorical question, I wonder if you could perhaps explain to me the need of voter ID laws.

      • Mac Harris

        You know why and apparently are just being purposely obtuse…. Because Democrats have shown themselves willing and eager to use voter fraud of every description in order to steal elections

        • Thirteen

          Then you shouldn’t have any trouble providing evidence of Democrats “stealing elections” or otherwise show some proof of rampant voting fraud, right?

          • Buzz Allnight

            apparently 13 is your age?
            or maybe your IQ?

          • Thirteen

            Very witty dude, you obviously have a razor sharp wit. I’m incfedibly impressed with how you upvote your own comments, it’s very classy…

            Now that comedy hour is over, though, maybe you’d be willing to actually respond to what I said?

          • Buzz Allnight

            It is impossible to prove anything without voters having ids,
            that is why we want them to be manditory.

          • Thirteen

            So, you’re willing to admit that you can’t procure any evidence of rampant voting fraud, and yet somehow you’ve come to the conclusion that rampant voting fraud does indeed exist, and that’s why we need voter ID laws. How did you come to this conclusion, exactly?

            And you’re wrong – it isn’t impossible to prove cases of voting fraud without ID laws, which is observable by the fact that there ARE cases of voting fraud both in states that have no such laws and before such laws were implemented. The catch is that they’re nearly unheard of, why do you suppose that is?

            Meanwhile, do you know what one of the most common types of actual voting fraud is? Absentee ballot voting. Now, can you guess how well these ID laws address that? Not at all! In fact, I can point you towards a few states that made absentee voting easier even as they restricted early voting and implemented voting ID laws. Now, why do you suppose they did that? If the real reason is to stop this ubiquitous yet unprovable fraud, why leave this giant loophole to exploit?

            And if you can only honestly answer “I don’t know,” then you probably didn’t read anything into Reagan’s speech at the Neshoba County Fair, either.

    • MVH1

      Why should they be required to show IDs? Give five good reasons with proof backing them up.

      • mike

        Gave you 2 already
        To prove who they are
        Then to ensure they vote only once
        And so that they don’t vote again using someone elses name.
        It ain’t that hard to understand.

        • tel00

          What happens when their name on the voter registration doesn’t match the name on the id (which can happen for legitimate reasons)?

          What about people that can’t afford a drivers license (or just don’t want to learn to drive)? Are you going to provide an ID for free, along with very very cheap or free public transportation to and from people’s home to the place to get the ID and back?

          Why should the tax payers pay for all this when there hasn’t been any identifiable voter fraud?

          None of this explains why their needs to be limits on early voting?

          • mike

            State and local governments would be on the hook to provide adequate photo ID’s. You are grasping at straws for reasons. If they really wanted one they could get one.

          • Buzz Allnight

            Then they don’t get to vote.
            No that can not happen for legitimate reasons.
            Non driver IDs are available.
            They do not have to be free.
            If you can’t get where you need to go to get an id how are you going to get where you need to vote?
            Without asking for ids there is no way to know if there is any voter fraud.
            The most important reason for voter ids is to keep non citizens from voting!
            It does not cost the tax payers anything election judges are volunteers.
            Have you ever voted?
            you seem totally ignorant?

          • tel00

            “Then they don’t get to vote.”

            Then your admitting to suppressing peoples right to vote?

            “No that can not happen for legitimate reasons.”
            People can change their name. Women do it all the time when they get married. If so, then their Id’s and registration are not going to match for some period of time.

            “They do not have to be free.”
            So now only people that can afford a fee (for the license) can vote? Do they have to land owning man too?

            “If you can’t get where you need to go to get an id how are you going to get where you need to vote?”
            I’m ok if everyone can get an id at the place they vote.

            “Without asking for ids there is no way to know if there is any voter fraud.”
            Sure there is, by looking at the voter registration roles. That’s why they are there.

            “The most important reason for voter ids is to keep non citizens from voting!”
            This is only an issue if you allow non-citizens to register. Why would you do that?

            “It does not cost the tax payers anything election judges are volunteers.” So processing and issuing IDs are also done by volunteers? How is that secure?

            Have you ever talked to anyone outside your neighborhood? You seem totally ignorant?

            I’m not inherintly against using IDs for voting. What i’m against is using it as a way of suppressing peoples votes because you don’t like the way they vote (which has been admitted by a couple of Republicans advocating for these laws). If you want IDs to be used by voters, then find a way of issuing them without placing more of a burden on people whose voting habits you don’t like.

            After all, if they can suppress other peoples votes, then why wouldn’t they suppress your votes if they don’t agree with you?

          • Buzz Allnight

            you have to get an id to vote, if you can’t do that the you are too stupid to vote.
            ids do have a minimal cost involved, yes if you can’t afford an id you can’t vote. Spend some of your welfare money on an id if you want to vote.
            When you get married you get a marriage license which is an id
            you wrote:
            Without asking for ids there is no way to know if there is any voter fraud.”
            Sure there is, by looking at the voter registration roles. That’s why they are there.

            you would need to check an id against the voter registration roll
            special needs people like you should not vote.

            you wrote:
            What i’m against is using it as a way of suppressing peoples votes because you don’t like the way they vote (which has been admitted by a couple of Republicans advocating for these laws).

            I do not believe your claim,
            do you have any proof?
            Illegal aliens are voting in our elections and must be stopped!
            The way to do that is secure ids.

          • tel00

            http://bit.ly/1mE3MHt

            Why do i get the impression that you would be for a single party system like China or Russia? You seem to think people don’t deserve to vote unless they meet with your approval.

          • Buzz Allnight

            you are mistaken they do not deserve to vote if they can not identify themselves.

          • Thirteen

            “Illegal aliens are voting in our elections and must be stopped!”

            I do not believe your claim,
            Do you have proof?

          • Buzz Allnight

            as soon as we have manditory voter ids

          • Thirteen

            Then maybe you can point me towards all the observable voting fraud in cases with voter ID laws. But wait, you actually can’t, because there isn’t any rampant fraud. Feel free to drag the goalposts back a bit further to justify why that is.

          • Little Cheese

            BS. Fraud occurs everyone knows it.. The reason it is hard to prosecute is no ID is collected so it is nearly impossible to go after the fraudsters after they have voted or registered. Plus it costs a fortune and resources are scarce. It would be far, far easier, fairer and accurate to ask for ID. But this doesnt serve the purposes of lying bastards who benefit from from the law being broken.

          • Thirteen

            “Fraud occurs everyone knows it…”

            It certainly does! Voting fraud certainly does exist, and it happens about 0.00000013% of the time.

            ” The reason it is hard to prosecute is no ID is collected so it is
            nearly impossible to go after the fraudsters after they have voted or
            registered.”

            And what has led you to this conclusion? What fraudsters do you think aren’t being gone after? Where is all this fraudulent voting occurring, in your mind? If it were so very rampant, you’d have some evidence of it, irregularities on a massive scale. But you don’t, because it isn’t. Facts are stubborn things.

            “But this doesnt serve the purposes of lying bastards who benefit from from the law being broken.”

            What bastards are these? What elections do you imagine have had fraudulent outcomes? What proof do you have of this? Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence, and yet here you are, making extraordinary claims with no evidence.

        • Buzz Allnight

          Also to prove they are a US citizen

  • Buzz Allnight

    This study is totally bogus and a fraud!
    Most politicians answer every communication they get with a vague sales pitch
    (you comments are important to me, vote for me)
    they also demand your phone number so they can robo call you.
    English should be our only language!

    • Thirteen

      “English should be our only language!”

      What an excellent non-sequitur, dude. Top notch comment.

      • Buzz Allnight

        Thank you

  • Buzz Allnight

    I am going to type really slow so you can understand me.
    All voters have to show an id.
    Most people already have an id anyway.
    You can not drive, work, get married, rent a place to live, get medical care, or get out of police custody if you should find yourself in that situation or do much of anything without an id.
    Showing an id does not disclose who you may be voting for.
    People are not discriminated against because of their name
    only refusing to show an id.
    A voter registration does nothing to ensure that the person registered is the person voting an id does that.
    More stupid statements about this:
    it makes it hard for people in the military to vote
    WRONG they all have ids.
    It makes it hard for old people to vote
    Wrong, they probably already have an id.
    I would bet that every one of you being stupid about this already has an id!

  • Buzz Allnight

    OK so we all agree this study was a total fraud and stupid and we need voter id laws. My work is done here bye!

  • LIBERTYANDJUSTICEFOR ALL

    This is ridiculous, I really fail to understand how you extrapolate voter ID laws are racially biased from this particular study. Democrats use 1 or 2 people that have suffered voter suppression to claim that any Voter ID laws are designed to suppress the vote. Republicans use 1 or 2 cases of voter fraud to insist its rampant and we need voter ID to stop it. I think we need more evidence period..

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